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2005 Infiniti G35 sedan 6MT vs. BMW 330i ZHP


Old 01-31-2005, 07:20 PM
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2005 Infiniti G35 sedan 6MT vs. BMW 330i ZHP

As I begin my search for a new car within the next 10 months, I never even thought to consider an Infiniti until I saw a photo of the new 298? hp G35 sedan with a 6 speed manual tranny. I've seen several of the 03-04 G35s in person, but I am blown away with the great looks of this car and the horsepower jump for 2005.

Basically, it looks as though my choices are going to be between a BMW 330i performance package (ZHP) and this new Infiniti G35 sedan. As a current owner of a BMW 3-series, I do not want to desert my Bimmer friends, but this G35 is tempting. I HATE the looks of the new E90 BMW 3-series that is debuting for 06, so I will be looking at an 05+ G35 or an 04-05 330i.

My main concerns about switching from the BMW to the G35 are:
1. Track capabilities (real road racing, not drag racing)
2. Handling
3. Strong top end
4. Interior comfort
5. Chick magnet credibility

Please be honest with your responses and thank you in advance for your responses!
Old 01-31-2005, 07:40 PM
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I drive a 95 M3 and the RWD, 300HP, Manual Tranny is what got me looking. Test drove and was sold, Power is a bit tighter than the M3 (Maybe due to extra gear), handling is very linear all the way up to the limit (slight understeer vs m3). Power steering is a bit overamped (but not compared to newer bmw's). Totally trackable car, lots of aftermarket (Thanks to the coupe) suspension bits and even some supercharger action via Stillen.

Atmosphere is the biggest difference...German cars just seem to have a bit more ergonomically designed switchgear, better seats and generally a less gimmicky interior (although the G is about the most functional Japanese interior I have ever seen).

I plan on suspension mods (Springs, sways) and maybe an intake spacer, definitiely covering the aluminum center panel with carbon or something lower key.
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Biggins,
I think you could be happy with either car but you'll save some money with the G. Think how many mods you can add with the $ difference.There is something to be said for the driving experience the German cars give.My wife has an A4 with sport suspension and the ride is very different from my G sedan non sport suspension. The seats in her Audi are much more supportive. However, the grin factor happens when I drive my G. You said you wrere blown away by the photos of the G. Wait till you drive it. I don't think the added HP is really going to make that much diff between the 04 and 05 so drive em both and make the best deal you can. You may save so much money, you mat be able to take your babe on a cruise instead of just crusin in the car. THINK ABOUT THAT.
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My first car was a Honda (reliable and got me where I needed to go). I'm not a brand loyalist or a huge German car enthusiast, but I love everything about my E36 and even the newer E46 Bimmers. I could easily sacrifice a little in the interior (I highly doubt it will be that much) for the looks and performance of the Infiniti.

I did the whole tuning thing in my younger days, but I love the factory rims on the G35. The only things I would consider would probably be suspension based (Eibach Pro-kit, Koni shocks/struts, sways) and brakes.

Also, do the 2005 G35 sedans come with large Brembos? Brakes and suspension are obviously most important because I would use them well for HPDEs and maybe autocrossing.
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Originally Posted by Biggins
My first car was a Honda (reliable and got me where I needed to go). I'm not a brand loyalist or a huge German car enthusiast, but I love everything about my E36 and even the newer E46 Bimmers. I could easily sacrifice a little in the interior (I highly doubt it will be that much) for the looks and performance of the Infiniti.

I did the whole tuning thing in my younger days, but I love the factory rims on the G35. The only things I would consider would probably be suspension based (Eibach Pro-kit, Koni shocks/struts, sways) and brakes.

Also, do the 2005 G35 sedans come with large Brembos? Brakes and suspension are obviously most important because I would use them well for HPDEs and maybe autocrossing.
I don't think the Brembo is an option anymore. This is what I saw on the Infiniti website.
Brakes

Front/Rear G35/G35 6MT 12.6-inch/12.1-inch ventilated discs with 4-wheel, 4-channel ABS
Front/Rear G35x AWD 11.7-inch/11.3-inch ventilated discs with 4-wheel, 4-channel ABS

ABS type Computer-controlled 4-channel, 4-sensor with Electronic Brake force Distribution and Brake Assist
I am not sure if they wrer available on the 04's. You may want to speak with a dealer.
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With the sizes you listed, I'm sure the bite on the brakes has to be reasonable. I'll be visiting a dealership later in the week when my ridiculous illness goes away.
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I have had my G35 6MT for about a week, and IMO the car is just superb. I'm not sure it would compete (stock) against an M3, but I don't see why it could hold its own against the 330. The engine is very very nice and pulls hard all the way to 7000 rpm. Handling is not bone-jarring, but still very responsive. And of course, the wheels look killer With some better tires I bet it would be fantastic on the track.

The brakes are not brembo's but IMO, they are pretty damn big for a "sporty" sedan.

I have been very happy with the interior. The '05s appeared to get some more attention on the interior, and seemed to get reviewed a lot better than the previous years.

Also, FYI, it even comes with a shift light
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I Owned A 5mt '97 328ic Convertable... My '03.5 G35 Is Everything My Bimmer Was Plus So Much More. I Have Taught Many M3's Not To Mess With A G35 Stick---unless You Want To Look Stupid! G35's Actually Copied The Suspension Set Up Of The 3 Series. Replace Heavy Bmw Parts With Light Weight Aluminum Alloy And Youve Got A 4door Car That Can Be Thrown Into The Most Aggressive Of Turns ----not Losing An Inch To My Bimmer! True---women Lust Over The Bimmer.....but My Friend ---men Lust Over This G35. I Recently Got A Speding Tickt In San Diego For Going 113 On A Curvy Road...the Cop Was Amazed! He Even Looked Under My Hood To Check Out The Fastest Car, No---vehicle, That Hed Ever Pulled Over. He Enjoyed The Experience---told Me The Previous Fastest Was A Ninja Motorcycle Going 107 On This Street.

G35 6mt Vs. 99 M3:

0-60---- G35
0-100---m3
60-0----g35
Interior---g35
Exterior---tie
Maintenance Costs----g35(by A Landslide!)
Electrical---g35
Shifter Action---m3

The 3 Series Was Undisputed King Of The 90's
But,nobody Has Matched The G35--- Yet
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Hold on, does he want our opinion on E36 M3 and G35 or E46 330ZHP and G35.

On the paper 2004 G35 has identical performance numbers as 330ZHP (skidpad, acceleration, slalom, so on (both 6MTs)).
So if i were you i would go and drive the 2005 g35 6mt and 330ZHP and see if its 330 is worth the extra 7-8 grand.
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I'm deciding between the exact two cars.

I've driven both. I have an offer on the table for a 330 ZHP (beautiful), but I'm still 2nd guessing my self. To me, the BMW is a better feeling sports sedan, you are truly one w/ the vehicle, and shifting is MUCH better, as is the steering feel. The G (as every one says, pulls and pulls! And I think it feels much faster!

Exterior - front (G35) rear (BMW), total = tie.
Interior - BMW, IMO - but G is bigger, so it's close, and the rear seat reclining action rules. Driver's perspective - BMW....Everyone else - G35.
Engine - G35
Handling - BMW, but G35 holds an awesome line, BMW edges it out in control
Shifting, tranny, clutch - BMW (no contest)
Brakes - feel = BMW, stopping = G35
Overall (if same price), I go w/ the BMW, because the car simply does not date (other than the e39 model (a tad)), but in general, BMWs are lookers for years to come IMO.
BUT for the real price - I take the G35.

My problem is this...I can have a 330i zhp '04 for less than an '05 G35. One things for sure, both cars are smokin', and both are somewhat uncommon in that configuration.

Good luck, and wish me luck too!
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My best friend has a 330i ZHP and i can say that after extensive time in his car his handling is a lot better than the G35.....The ZHP has 18s that are 8.0 in wide in the front and 8.5 in the back....thats esentailly the main differance....the power of the G is much better but i think the BMW still looks better but is much smaller.....if they were both the same price...i think i would get the BMW....but the G35 can be just as sweet as the ZHP if you get some nice wheels and the sport package....power and value of the G are unparalleled....IMO these 2 cars are the closest in their class....no other cars come even close....oh and by the way...my G is a major chick magnet...more than my firneds BMW....probably because every other car on the road is a 3 series....
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4. Interior comfort
----> Beemer.... WINS (gotta insert the Mortal Kombat voice here)


5. Chick magnet credibility
----> Beemer.... WINS

FATALITY!!!


Chicks don't care about the other things you mentioned and let's face it, it's all about the sausage pouch dude.

"Beemers will get you more screamers"

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Originally Posted by doogie
4. Interior comfort
----> Beemer.... WINS (gotta insert the Mortal Kombat voice here)


5. Chick magnet credibility
----> Beemer.... WINS

FATALITY!!!


Chicks don't care about the other things you mentioned and let's face it, it's all about the sausage pouch dude.

"Beemers will get you more screamers"
So essentially if your dong is big enough to take it then the G is the way to go. For you smaller size weeners you'll need the ZHP to get chicks? Right. I doubt the interior is that much better in the ZHP than the 05 coupe - especially when the gremlins take over and nothing works properly. Hope her pouch was worth the ubiquity and trouble LOL.
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I think that I've come to the conclusion that these cars are equals. Each has their highs and lows, and with the money I have to spend, the imperfections I'm worried about in the G could be easily cured (modding) with the price I'd pay for the ZHP.

I'll continue contemplating and lurking in this forum because decision time is still TEN months away.
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SixFive you should take my post with a grain of salt... After all I didn't even OWN a new car until long after I was married, and trust me at that point, dong size simply doesn't matter any more - although I will admit my ***** is CURIOUSLY small.

But yes, I believe (opinion not fact) the interior on ANY BMW is going to be better than the G simply because the G has a crappy, crappy interior. For a car in this price range it looks cheap and is laid out very poorly.

That said I still love my G and wouldn't give it up for the world. Even more sausage pouch.

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